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A reminder about the “Model Mayhem scam”


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Filed by Lucire staff/January 12, 2009/4.12


Repeating a post made in August 2008: please be on alert, at sites such as ModelMayhem.com, for anyone claiming to be from Lucire based at 32 Vauxhall Bridge Road, London. There is no Lucire office there. We do not send emails from Rocketmail [and we would never have an address in the format of luciremagazine**@gmail.com]. We do not have team members called Bruce Williams, Jack Henry or Jeff Daniels [or C. Ellsworth or Gregory Williams—two new aliases that came to light in April 2009—Ed]. And if we are paying you, the amount will certainly not be coming from companies in Duluth, Ga., or Orangeburg, NY.
   We have alerted the authorities, although the British High Commission has refused to get involved since we cannot prove that these have come from British subjects. There is an indication that Nigerians are behind it. FHM and Glamour have also been targeted by the scammers.
   Please note that we do not believe that these messages to have come from ModelMayhem.com: we realize these have been put there by others. We also hear that other sites have been targeted, though to date the ones mentioning Lucire have been, to our knowledge, only at Model Mayhem.
   If you have the sender’s email, report it to their abuse department. We would even recommend you raise it with the FBI as we understand it is a Nigerian 419 scam. If you have the scam email with the headers, please send it over to us and we would be happy to file a complaint as well.

PS.: The latest version of this now says Donna Karan and DKNY instead of Lucire. Thanks to Lucy for spotting this in June 2010.

P.PS.: We have been told by another reader (in September 2010) that another address being cited is Unit 1, Tylers Business Park, Lewes Road, Blackboys, Uckfield TN22 5LF, England, with a fake telephone number of ‘44 702-402-1661’ (not that many in the UK would actually separate the numbers that way). There is a legitimate business at that address that has nothing to do with the scam, but beware of messages along the same lines. They aren’t actually originating from that address.

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  • dave

    I was in searth of raw talant and did hire 3 people of modelmayham but because I make movies they would not aprove my profile so the other people I could not reach becuae they did not post a email I did not hire sad they at modelmayhamblock people from getting work

  • Former MMer

    I have read that Model Mayhem is actually a scam site being used to recruit premature models into performing in adult entertainment. Here is the online reference regarding complaints that have been made against the site and its owner: http://www.ripoffreport.com/searchresults.asp?q5=model+mayhem&Search=Search&q1=ALL&q4=&q6=&q3=&q2=&q7=&searchtype=0&submit2=Search!

    Not too long ago a few models that I know personally from the site also complained of issues very similar to the ones found at the link above.

  • Thank you both for your comments. Former MMer, this is concerning. We didn’t have any proof connecting the site with the con, but I do have to wonder why they have not been stricter with what they let on there.

  • I was denies as a Photographer. her’s the pics I posted. http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=178295105&albumId=1904194

    I have gone through all of the requirements and I meet every one. I am a photographer submitted 4 photo’s 3 different models all taken by me Gave a valid to the point description of why I am on the site in my about me. I am not an agency or a website I am just a photographer starting out. I am even going for a paid account I am not doing anything wrong on your requirement list now I am confused.

    M.hana
    May 24 09 03:18 pm
    Hi,
    Please check here for the requirements.
    http://www.modelmayhem.com/reqs.php
    The gatekeepers must have had an issue with your bio being about video or the image quality.
    Thanks.
    Add some more photos and press resubmit.

    Imortalsaga Productions
    May 24 09 03:20 pm
    come on there is no way you can help me out. I have no way of knowing if I fill all of the requirements in the first place why I am still being told no.

    Imortalsaga Productions
    May 24 09 03:20 pm
    ok thankyou

    BlindMike
    May 24 09 03:21 pm
    As a modeling site, personal snapshots are unacceptable. We suggest you upload better examples of your work.

    Imortalsaga Productions
    May 24 09 03:31 pm
    These are not personal snapshots they are actual paid jobs. unfortunately just starting out these are all I have and I got denied when I had the cleaned up shots up for try as well. I did fix the issue about the mentioning about my video and other services I provide to models. I tend to try for a more natural style instead of using a lot of artificial light I use what they already have to show there beauty.

    Imortalsaga Productions
    May 24 09 03:39 pm
    ok then if you are not going to accept me you don’t need to withdraw the 6 bucks for the first month and if you have I’m going to be needing it back this is just plain wrong. the photo’s are the same resolution of all the others on your sight you just don’t like the lighting.

    M.hana
    May 24 09 04:06 pm
    Your credit card is not billed unless you become active.
    thanks

  • Patrick, I’m not sure how relevant this is to the scams, and your link to your MySpace didn’t work for me.

  • Patrick

    basically that they claim to be for people just getting started into the business however when approached by one they immediately turn around and decline them it is fraudulant to run a site meant for beginers then when one that shows a seriousness it is turned down due to not careing for ones style. here’s the link to the main page of my site again I hope this one works then you can see what I mean. http://www.myspace.com/redneck32025

  • Reesa Guerra

    I am so glad that I read this article. I received this email saying that they saw my account on “Model Mayhem”. I have used this site for work with free photographers. I am a union actress and model on the side. I came very close to falling for the scam by a Ann Fryer at Lucire Global Fashion Magazine looking for models for the cover of their magazine For a new clothing store in california called EXCLUSIVE wears.

  • Reesa, I am glad the article came in handy and maybe we can stop these scammers.
       It looks like these idiots have stepped up their game and stopped using fake names, as there really is an Ann Fryer, though she does not look for models in her capacity with us, and we never refer to ourselves as ‘Lucire Global Fashion Magazine’ in correspondence (the last three words being a slogan). So that is a phony you received there.
       Please can you forward us (with headers, if possible) the email you received? Before they were misusing our trade mark, which is already illegal, but going further and using one of our team members’ names is yet another level, and maybe the authorities will look again.
       Our real email for the general mailbox is info, followed by the at, then lucire.com.

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  • I get this email a couple times a month. Oh, well!

  • kylesha

    From: james Lolyramre
    To: lkylesha@yahoo.com
    Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 5:25:21 PM
    Subject: information

    Hello,
    I just read from my client and she assured me that part payment will be mailed to you, until you receive and confirm payment we will not shoot, your total pay for the job is $1600 and part payment of

    $250 will be mailed to you first and the balance of $1350 after the shooting, i hope you understand ? Send me your payment details as to which our client is to mail out your part payment to you in the

    form below

    Name on check :
    Complete Mailing address :
    Phone number (Make sure your cell number is included):,
    Age :
    Height:
    One Photograph of yourself:
    Clothing Size:

    Also she said after we confirm the part payment, we will all have a fixed date and location for the shooting that best fits. Make-up, hair etc would be taken cared of at the Studio as we are presently

    deliberating with some studio agents over location, remember you can come along with anyone of your choice.

    You have 12 different fashion outfits to cover as i already mentioned which would be provided by our client on the day of the shooting.most type of clothing will be Jeans and Jackets.I hope all is well

    stated, make sure you get back intouch with your required payment details at once thank you.

    Thanks.
    Glad to read back from you here you will find all details for the job…

    Job Location
    The shooting will hold at a rented photographers studio in your location,so you don’t have to worry about traveling,the name and address of the studio will be forwarded to you before the date of the shooting,all make up will be taken care of in the studio.You can come along with any body of your choice on the day of the shooting,your mum,dad,friend,body-guard anybody you wish to come with just for you to feel more comfortable.

    Job details
    You have 12 different Fashion outfits to cover,which would be provided by our client on the day of the shooting.

    Types of cloths
    Jeans and Jackets

    Name of client
    Rosal Karen
    Company Name
    Beth Designer
    Job percentage
    The total pay for the jobs is $2,500 and you get $700 as your part payment.

    Shooting Date
    the date for the shooting is not fix,I will have to make arrangement for that ahead from now,I will email you the exact date for the shooting a week before as soon as the arrangement is completed with our client.
    Requirements
    Very Attractive,Classy,In Great Shape,Extremely Outgoing & Personable,out spoken,Must be Reliable.
    Payment Policy
    As part of my working policy and ethics,I receive part payment from any client before I proceed with any job and balance immediately after the shooting,this is to identify a serious client and ascertain the job,I hope you comprehend this fact.
    I will keep you updated as to when our client wants to make upfront
    payments
    Expectation
    you need to have good and attractive poses .(start practicing) Basically this is all required of you,for your make up my client will be taken care of it,you don’t have to be bother for any make up,please get in touch with me if you will take the job and we can go from there,just let me know if you will take the job to commence with next arrangement.
    Please I’d like you to check your email on a regular bases, I might
    have updates for you.
    james

  • kylesha

    is this a scam anyone????

  • Kylesha—that’s probably the same scam. It’s almost the wording used in the fake ones that we had found. What happens is they send you too much and ask for some of the money back. Unfortunately, what they send is a fake cheque. By the time your bank bounces it, they already have your real funds.
       I Googled this ‘James Lolyramre’ and found nothing. I imagine if he was really in the industry, there would be some mention of him somewhere, e.g. on a magazine staff or model agency’s list.

  • Tao

    Shooting Details!!!
    Sunday, March 14, 2010 8:15 AM
    From:
    “Charles Donald”

    Hello…
    Glad to read back from you here you will find all details for the job…

    Job Location
    The shooting will hold at a rented photographers studio in your location,so you don’t have to worry about traveling,the name and address of the studio will be forwarded to you before the date of the
    shooting,all make up will be taken care of in the studio.You can come along with any body of your choice on the day of the shooting,your mum,dad,friend,body-guard anybody you wish to come with just
    for you to feel more comfortable.

    Job details
    You have 12 different Fashion outfits to cover,which would be provided by our client on the day of the shooting.

    Types of cloths
    Jeans and Jackets

    Name of client
    Rosal Karen
    Company Name
    Beth Designer
    Job percentage
    The total pay for the jobs is $1,600 and you get $250 as your part payment and the rest balance immediately after the shoot at the shooting Venue.

    Shooting Date
    the date for the shooting is not fix,I will have to make arrangement for that ahead from now,I will email you the exact date for the shooting a week before as soon as the arrangement is completed with our
    client.
    Requirements
    Very Attractive,Classy,In Great Shape,Extremely Outgoing & Personable,out spoken,Must be Reliable.
    Payment Policy
    As part of my working policy and ethics,I receive part payment from any client before I proceed with any job and balance immediately after the shooting,this is to identify a serious client and ascertain
    the job,I hope you comprehend this fact.
    I will keep you updated as to when our client wants to make upfront
    payments
    Expectation
    you need to have good and attractive poses .(start practicing) Basically this is all required of you,for your make up my client will be taken care of it,you don’t have to be bother for any make up,please get
    in touch with me if you will take the job and we can go from there,just let me know if you will take the job to commence with next arrangement.
    Please I’d like you to check your email on a regular bases, I might have updates for you

    Forget it being a scam or not, why didn’t he offer me $2500 like Kylesha? haha
    I figured it was a scam, it’s easier to pick them apart when you keep asking questions.

  • Thank you, Tao. Now it’s clear that law enforcement agencies cannot or will not act, more information is definitely welcome, so others don’t get suckered in to this scam. Good on you for pushing the issue—the more they engage with you, the less time they have to con others.

  • From: “Diana [ Bejeweled ]”
    > Date: Sat, Jun 19, 2010 1:21 AM
    > Subject: Job Details
    > *Hello,*
    > *
    > *
    > * We are sorry for the late response, thanks for your reply and i am here
    > with a great pay fashion job (Assignment) worth $2,800 for you. My client
    > wants to update her Catalogs with her new year release fashion outfits. I
    > am
    > a photographer by profession myself with 4 years experience and below are
    > the details regarding the job.*
    > *
    > *
    > *Job Location:*
    > *
    > *
    > * The shooting will hold at a rented photographers studio in your
    > location, so you do not have to worry about traveling, the name and address
    > of the studio will be forwarded to you before the date of the shooting and
    > all make up will be taken care of in the studio. You can as well have a
    > friend/family to accompany you on the day of the shooting, your mum,
    > dad,friend, body-guard anybody you wish to come with, just for you to feel
    > more comfortable as more concentration will be needed.*
    > *
    > *
    > *Job Details:*
    > *
    > *
    > * You have 12 different Fashion outfits to cover, which would be provided
    > by
    > our client on the day of the shooting.*
    > *
    > *
    > *Types of cloths: Jeans and Jackets, Some Material Clothing, Hats And No
    > Nude.*
    > *
    > *
    > *Name of client : Michael Stars*
    > *
    > *
    > *Job Percentage:*
    > * *
    > * The Total Contract Worth $6800 and you will get $2,800 as your
    > percentage.*
    > *
    > *
    > *Expectations:*
    > *
    > *
    > * You need to have good and attractive poses ( start practicing ).
    > Basically
    > this is all required of you, please get in touch with me if you will take
    > the job and we can go from there.*
    > *
    > *
    > *Regards*
    > *Diana*

    Yes they are still at it with different names. I even got one of their phone numbers because I was probing so much. The woman’s name is Diana and her personal assistant’s name is Brian 323-289-2425

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